The weather gods hate me!

30 04 2008


Man! I can’t win this year.  Two days of below freezing have completely obliterated my poor little tomatoe plants.

You can see the row of 3 tomatoes in the first picture.  Yeah…that’s them…the brown lumps of goo. Just two days ago they were busting out of their store pots begging to be let loose.  You can see, if you squint, the forth tomatoe behind my king kong, take a beating, show me some more SNOW, I dare you..oregano.  It over wintered with the garlic just fine and is going gang busters frost or no.  You can see the lettuce is popping up too.  I had a simple layer of straw over them for the last two days of frost.




I also noticed that I forgot to try and protect my two squash plants over on the other side of the house *sigh*.  They have some tip burn it looks like but I think they may have survived.  I’m not too concerned with stunted growth as they are in a tight area anyway.


Forecast looks good for above freezing temperatures, though still cool. But something else to watch for. It’s severe weather time (eg: tornados) and the College of DuPage folks are out storm chasing this week and Paul Sirvatka has posted that we are heading into a period of potential severe weather for Illinois.

If you don’t have a NOAA weather radio you really should.  A couple of my weather nerd friends swear by the Midland WR-300 ($50) or WR-100 ($30). Your local Radio Shack should carry the WR-100 if you don’t want to order via the web. That reminds me. I need to get one!



1 05 2008
Monica (08:05:55) :

See! You can not plant until Mother’s day at the earliest. And even then, I’ve seen it snow!

All of my plants are ready and waiting to go on my sun porch. It’s not heated, so I don’t really worry too much about tempering the plants to the cold. Now I have nine new babies all sitting pretty in a row. They will be joined by others after this weekends Oak Park Conservitory sale.

Plus, did I tell you that we’re remodeling the kitchen and the debris from that is all over my back yard?

Just try to think happy plant thoughts for another week at least.

1 05 2008
tyler (09:22:35) :

I had never heard the mother’s day thing. That is probably a safe methodology. I think my generic rule going forward is going to be nothing outside that is a warm weather crop (tomatoes, etc) until May 1. The cool weather stuff (cabbage, etc) are doing just fine.

1 05 2008
Mr. McGregor's Daughter (12:52:22) :

Sorry about your poor little tomatos. I was also living dangerously, by planting a Dahlia in a large planter b4 the middle of May. When we got the freeze warning, I dug it out & brought it in for the night. I also covered some of my tree peony buds with bubblewrap. Everything was fine the next day, & with no freeze in the forecast, so I put the Dahlia back in the planter. At 9 p.m. I noticed that the temperature was down to 34 degrees - but there was still no freeze warning. I left the Dahlia outside, but stuffed the bubblewrap on that instead. Result - some damaged peony buds. The Dahlia’s fine. You should invest in bubblewrap if you want to live dangerously & plant early.

6 05 2008
Monica (20:17:22) :

I’m tempting fate! My flowers, zuccs, cukes, and beans are in the ground. Fingers dirty and crossed!


A couple questions answered

28 04 2008

1) What are you using for the seed potatoes?

I maintain a planting diary that is fairly up to date with the latest information about the garden. If you check the diary you’ll see that I planted Red Cloud potatoes and Kennebec.  The Red Cloud’s I got from Moose Tubers (a Fedco company) and the Kennebec from Barn Owl and Feed (a local garden/farm/feed store)

2) Did you get the tomatoes in the ground? If you did, what are you doing for them now that it’s snowing out?


I did. My seed tomatoes I killed due to lack of attention on my part. So I went to a big box store and picked up some seedlings while I grow some more in the garage.  When there is a threat of a late frost (like tonight) and my cold frame isn’t available, I use plastic in a makeshift cold frame style. Here’s a picture from this evening.  The tall plastic is my tomatoes already staked and ready to grow.  The smaller rectangle is the herbs, cabbage, garlic and another tomatoe.

3) I noticed in your gallery that you have a solar panel set up. I’m curious to know how you are using it.


I don’t have that system anymore.  When I lived in KY I was the Emergency Management coordinator for the Amateur Radio operators in the county.  Because of that, and because it was fun to build, I designed and built a fully off the grid power station for my amateur radio and weather station equipment in my basement. I could technically run forever without power. I kept a parts list if you want to try and do something like it yourself. Here’s the flickr set with wiring diagram and photos. I also participated in the Alternative Energy Associate (AEA) of Cincinnati. You can see a tour of my rain barrel setup and solar dog house on their website.

4) What is that tent in your image gallery. You never posted about it!


Sorry about that!  My wife and I are going backpacking in July and I wanted an ultra light tent.  I did a bunch of research and decided on the RainShadow 2 from TarpTent. I had it up a week or two back to seam seal it and get some practice putting it up.  The tent is not a traditional tent, in that it is not completely enclosed. It’s basically a tarp (see name of company) with a sewn in floor separated by bug netting. It makes the tent only 46oz instead of somewhere around 100oz for a traditional 2 person tent (50% weight saving).



28 04 2008
gina (21:47:05) :

tyler - i can’t seem to see the pictures in this post and i was particularly interested in how you covered your tomatoes. I just draped plastic over mine i hope they’ll be ok.

so now I have a question. did people in KY think you were a freakazoid with all your magic solar panels and rain barrels? I’m from the south and you don’t see too much of that stuff around there.

28 04 2008
tyler (22:25:06) :

Here’s the link to the flickr image of the frost protection tonight…

http://www.flickr.com/photos/allisonhouse/2450090893/in/set-72157604509109041/

We’ll see if it works. Temperature is slowly falling with lowest temp forecasted for around 1am.

As for being a freakazoid…hahahah :) The only thing that stops me from being more weird is the lack of financing ;)

29 04 2008
Monica (08:48:12) :

Blurg this cold weather!

I got an email stating that my plants will arrive TOMORROW! (4/30). It set me in a tail spin of too soon, too soon, too soon!

I’ve been checking the weather daily and this weekend looks lousy too. The tomatoes should be fine inside, but I would like to get some of the hardier flowers out in the yard.

Oh, the joy and the stress!

29 04 2008
tyler (17:22:58) :

The forecasts are showing a heating trend for the rest of the week so the odds of another frost are _extremely_ low. Historical records show we are well beyond the 90% probability of last frost has already happened. And every day makes the probability even higher. I’m calling yesterday (Apr 28th) as the last frost of the season. Assuming it’s not too muddy it should be safe to put the plants out this weekend.

30 04 2008
Mike Szewczyk (11:10:51) :

OK, I’m going to go with your recommendation on putting stuff in this weekend!


One mistake and everything dead

20 04 2008

Well it happened.  In preparation for this weekends garden activities, I put my seedlings out in the cold frame to harden them off with a bit of outside weather a few days ago.  And with all the hustle and bustle I forgot they were there!!!  They got fried when I forgot to lift the windows during the 70 degree weather this morning and the temperature went over 100 degrees.  By the time I got to them I had lost nearly all the plants.  An entire early seedling set down the toilet. I think the hardiest of them, the one tomatoe and the two squash may have survived. But I don’t have much hope for the cucumber, cabbage, cauliflower and the cherry tomatoes.  I can’t believe it! I’m going to have to scramble to replace the dead plants with store purchased varieties if I want any early harvests. I could have kicked myself.  That’ll learn me.

I replaced the cabbage and cherry tomatoes from seedlings at Home Depot this evening and they’ll go in tomorrow. I don’t think I’ve ever seen cucumber seedlings so I planted a few seeds next to each seedling I set out in hopes that if the seedlings die the seeds can take over. I remember seeing cauliflower at Menards this morning so I’ll go there after hitting Planters Pallette tomorrow morning to see what they have.  I’m taking a day off from work due to the awesome weather and a bunch of garden stuff needs doing ASAP.

On one good note, I got the potatoes cut and ready for planting tomorrow.  And my wife is actually warming to the idea of the front grass area (between the low front yard fence and the road) being turned into a squash bed!! Wouldn’t that be a hoot….monster squash plants as the front border! heheheh



20 04 2008
gina (20:07:36) :

well that sucks! sorry to hear that. Gardening sure is stressful!

21 04 2008
Mr. McGregor's Daughter (12:28:00) :

Yeah, that’s a total bummer! Seedlings are so annoyingly delicate, I’ve given up on them except for direct sowing.

22 04 2008
Monica (09:42:39) :

I just stared my cukes, zuccini, and beans on 4/20. I was going to wait till 5/3 to start them from seed in the garden, but wanted a head start. I should have some seedlings by 5/3 and may have some extra cukes. If you are interested, let me know.

28 04 2008
Mike Szewczyk (11:33:37) :

Hey Tyler, I have a few questions:

1) What are you using for the seed potatoes?

2) Did you get the tomatoes in the ground? If you did, what are you doing for them now that it’s snowing out?

3) I noticed in your gallery that you have a solar panel set up. I’m curious to know how you are using it.

28 04 2008
tyler (21:18:27) :

Thanks for the questions! I’ve answered them here


Seedling update and last frost of the season

12 04 2008

It looks like the last frost of the season might just be in the next few days.  Which means the next weekend will be the first plausible time to get the garden work finalized and get some direct sow seeds in the ground.  Current forecasts show a trend upwards for temperature but be ready to protect any seedlings for the next 3-4 weeks at least.

Here are some pictures of my current seed starting in the house.  I’ve had to "pot on" more seedlings than I had expected but I jumped the gun hoping for an early last frost and that didn’t happen.  I haven’t lost any just yet, but a couple of them are showing stress.






12 04 2008
gina (23:04:11) :

are you sure??? oh my goodness this is exciting! are you sure sure?? i mean i know you can’t predict the weather but how have you done in past years?

12 04 2008
tyler (23:20:54) :

I’m being a bit optimistic yes. The NWS tracks this kind of thing and they say that on average it happens around the first week in May. If you plant anything now you need to be ready to protect them for the next 3-4 weeks. If you want to be 90% positive the last frost has happened you need to wait until the end of May. I can’t wait that long!

The weather this coming weekend should be awesome though so use the weekend to get things started…but maybe hold off on the less hardy seeds. They are forecasting rain thur/fri so pray that it doesn’t hold off! We want the rain earlier in the week! :)

gardening is such a risky business :)

25 04 2008
Monica (21:11:52) :

Oh no! It’s going to be windy and chilly on Sunday (4/25). I’ve seen it snow on Mother’s day and that’s the earliest that I would consider planting. In Chicago, at least.

Which is why lots of Chicago houses have a sun porch on them. That way you can use it as a green house until it’s time to plant.

25 04 2008
Monica (21:18:10) :

Ps. The Oak Park Conservatory is having it’s plant sales the next two weeks.

http://www.oakparkparks.com/parks/conservatory_events.htm


It’s officially spring!

7 04 2008


Here at our house we decide when spring is by the first sunday it is warm enough to eat hot dogs at Scooby’s outside under the umbrellas (on North Ave in West Chicago). Well yesterday was that day! Yeah!!!!




The girls even spent some time down in the creek behind the house. Melissa (wife) and I cleared brush and sucker trees from the creek bank in preparation for building a little "forest walk" area by the creek.


I also got a call from Moose Tubers that my seed potatoes are shipping tomorrow.  Good thing I got the potatoe bed started on Saturday!



10 04 2008
Kristi (20:08:41) :

That sounds like a great spring day.